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Infinity Sav are a company pushing a product, the MG10 which is available for pre-order which, they claim, can generate electricity without consuming fuel - i.e. is a free energy machine.

The Magnetic Generator is complex system with an organized structural arrangement of permanent magnets and bifilar coils and PCB controller with a specially designed software that are used to generate and dispense electrical energy.

Initial start is performed by a battery or any other external source of energy to help motor reach needed RPM. After that the external source can be disconnected. The device is able to operate in autonomous mode and maintain its RPM regardless of amount of useful energy being consumed.

This video demonstrates it operating for 5 hours

Does this device generate electricity without fuel?

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    "maintain its RPM regardless of amount of useful energy being consumed" sounds like "free energy" or more precisely a perpetual motion machine of the "first kind". Commented Apr 21, 2019 at 1:46
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    They aren't manufacturing them yet (they're allowing preorders for "once distributor in that area is assigned"), so there probably isn't much to investigate since they probably aren't giving them out to any independent testers. They do have a 13 year-old patent for it (one of a couple thousand vague patents for perpetual motion), so that's something. Commented Apr 21, 2019 at 13:26
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    It's perpetual motion by another name. Please just Google perpetual motion and be amazed. The company or claimant, if correct, can simply publish their proof and wait for the Nobel Prize in physics for solving the world's energy problems! Commented May 10, 2019 at 14:58
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    Just for the fun of it, I went back and checked on this company. As of yesterday, it had been exactly one year since they posted any news on their website. Their twitter feed has been somewhat active, but it's all been either "look at how cool this looks" or "these people came and looked and were impressed". Maybe when I check back in next year they might actually have a "working" product. Or not. Commented Mar 6, 2020 at 19:42
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    It's a shame this has received so many downvotes, as it's a good question (by the site's own standards) about a sophisticated and well-presented fraud. This question makes a great opportunity to educate the reader. Commented Nov 19, 2020 at 9:14

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Perpetual motion machines are impossible - move along. Once a claim of "free" energy is made, the claim is false - the second law of thermodynamics says so.

With a sufficiently large energy store (a battery or a flywheel) a machine can operate for a long time, however, what they are suggesting is that it can operate indefinitely - it can't.

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    Give proper reasoning Commented Nov 17, 2020 at 2:23
  • Your answer is also incorrect because a perpetual motion machine can exist in a vacuum and move forever Commented Nov 17, 2020 at 19:32
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    @Topcode please, learn some physics. A perpetual motion machine is not something that moves forever - most astronomical bodies do that. A perpetual motion machine is something that does work forever without an input of energy. Commented Nov 17, 2020 at 19:35
  • per·pet·u·al /pərˈpeCH(o͞o)əl/ adjective adjective: perpetual 1. never ending or changing. "deep caves in perpetual darkness" Commented Nov 17, 2020 at 19:37
  • mo·tion /ˈmōSH(ə)n/ noun noun: motion; plural noun: motions 1. the action or process of moving or being moved. "the laws of planetary motion" Commented Nov 17, 2020 at 19:38
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Vimeo demonstration video

Perpetual motion is possible under extremely low levels of frictional load in this example with the ingenious use of angular spacing of magnets producing continuous rotary work.

You'd expect the use of a lever to be non-usable after it is used merely once. Yet, this cyclical repetition of passing a horizontal, V-formation of permanent magnets past another permanent magnet reuses the potential energy of leverage without any additional cost of energy if a flywheel is employed especially while this type of ratchet wrench resets itself.

The leveraging V-formation accelerates rotation due to an intensification of magnetic attraction or repulsion forming an artificial gravity. Nothing less than this accelerative force is necessary to overcome a constant friction.

The V-formation does not have to expend any additional energy since it is laid out in a changeless arrangement. The rotation of the geometry of this V-formation is permanently repetitive.

The purpose of the flywheel is to get past the ratchet-reset-point without merely injecting new energy restricted to that moment in time. Instead, it is injected, smoothly and continuously, throughout each rotation. So, this is not a design which can be merely "thrown together". Every feature of this seemingly simple-looking toy must be incredibly balanced to bring out all of its features to a maximum of gain.

The reuse of potential energy is the key focus to take away from this short video. The fact that potential energy is not being depleted automatically makes it limitless. No lengthy video can provide any additional information.

Cyclic repetition of leverage reuses the potential energy of permanent magnets.

Despite appearances to the contrary, this is a problem of mechanical engineering. This is not a fundamental problem of physics nor of electrical engineering. The use of electronics - for the operation of the MG10 - is merely to facilitate the efficient use of mechanical principles (as are illustrated in this simplistic video posted on Vimeo) due to the spacing of the magnets on the surface of a rotary device.

This is also a challenge of social engineering for which our maximization of profit is not yet ready for.

A parallel could be drawn between this simplistic Vimeo video and the pendulum lever of Veljko Milković despite their differences.


"...Noether’s theorem dictates mathematically that time-translation symmetry (which is unbroken at all times for systems humans can build) implies conservation of energy."

Most people are unaware of the reversal of time during a transient surge since they never bother to divide the instantaneous power of that moment by the energy of that moment (or vice versa) to discover whether or not a negative time-interval is the result (indicating a reversal of time).

The reversal of time for a transient surge invalidates Conservation of Energy during the moments in which these surges occur and, besides being engineerable, they also contribute to a total excess of voltage - especially in this instance since reluctance switching of the MG10, or the switching among the repetitive V-formation leverages placed around the circular drum of the demonstration toy, are similar examples which encourage the formation of parametric surges.

Since whatever energy (mostly dominating in voltage) is acquired during these moments are not tied to any causation, hence, there are no prior events which are directly liable for their results. In other words, just because it takes energy to catalyze the formation of a surge doesn't mean that we have to supply the energy of that surge.

These surges acquire their energy from any one or more of three options since these surges presuppose their open (system) architecture. These options are listed in their sequence of the easiest methods to acquire energy versus their increasing difficulty and (thus) the latter options are less likely to occur or give satisfactory results due to a lack of available energy in option #2 (the environment, for instance):

  1. The reuse of residual energy already resident within the circuit before it is sent back to the opposite terminal of the "source" and, thus, avoids neutralizing the dipole of potential difference stretching across the terminals of a source.
  2. Theft versus Acquisition:
    • The theft of energy from manmade sources.
    • The harvesting of energy from the natural environment.
  3. Imaginary power acquired from a singularity of non-organized imaginary (not complex) numbers. Since this singularity lacks the definable orderliness of real enumeration, it is the end result of cosmic (not local) entropy and is, also, the source of the reorganization of energy (aka, matter) from this disordered state.

This is nonlinearity at its finest.

And since the energy of these transients are not tied to any liability, they can become self-amplified in a reverb-style circuitry while the real power which catalyzes these surges remains small (or dies out due to entropy) resulting in an escalation of the coefficience of the performance of this open system.

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    This is false. Even if it were possible to completely eliminate all losses - friction, air resistance, sound emissions, etc. - the device still cannot produce energy. The moment you start removing energy from it, it will begin slowing down, and eventually stop. The video doesn't demonstrate anything because because we can't see the hidden energy source, or how long it kept spinning, or how it started spinning, ... Commented Nov 16 at 16:53
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    first law of thermodynamics says that you can't get infinite work. Small friction is still small, and thus eventually will exhaust any energy reserve. Commented Nov 16 at 17:10
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    @Vinyasi What do you mean? How does it demonstrate that we can get infinite work? I don't see that in any sense. Commented Nov 16 at 18:50
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    @Vinyasi People have been proposing perpetual motion machines using clever arrangements of magnets that they claim provides infinite free energy for ages. They never worked in the past, and they don't work now. A few seconds of video showing something spinning doesn't change that. Commented Nov 16 at 19:05
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    @Vinyasi - I'll keep eyes open, but just in case I miss it, would you please come back here and let us know when you've won the Nobel Prize for disproving some of the post fundamental principles of physics, and put all the fossil fuel companies out of business with your leveraging V-formation of permanent magnets? Commented Nov 17 at 1:47

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